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Ken Caldeira Email Exchange
 As many people know, Ken Caldeira is a researcher from Stanford who is in the public eye actively selling the purported benefits of global geoengineering to the public.
Below is a transcript of an email exchange between Ken and those who are blowing the whistle on the damage being done by ongoing geoengineering programs.
From Joan to Ken Calderia
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 1:43 PM
 I would like to voice my disapproval at the fact that you and your fellow "scientists" have the audacity to claim the skies over our planet and decide what you will dump on the people of the world. We didn't elect you and your cronies to pollute our atmosphere with toxic crap and destroy the natural weather patterns for who knows how long.
If you choose to take chemotherapy, that is a personal decision on your part. You have no right to decide what is right and healthy for others. I am asking you to cease and desist from implementing these programs on the people of the world and to ask those others who are taking part in this to stop.
Let me remind you that at one time people thought Agent Orange was a good idea.
Sincerely,
Joan ***
From Ken Calderia to Joan
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 4:49 PM
Joan,
You are apparently misinformed.
My fellow 'scientists' and I do not have 'the audacity to claim the skies over our planet and decide what you will dump on the people of the world'. I 'pollute our atmosphere with toxic crap and destroy the natural weather pattern' probably to the same extent you do, primarily with our carbon dioxide emissions.
I do not 'decide what is right and healthy for others'. And I cannot cease and desist from doing something that I do not do.
I am an academic research scientist who has studied geoengineering only in the context of computer model simulations.
Perhaps you might consider getting your information from more reliable sources. A good start might be this interview: http://www.theeuropean-magazine.com/373-caldeira-ken/372-climate-change-and-geo-engineering
Best,
Ken Caldeira
Carnegie Institution for Science
Dept of Global Ecology
260 Panama Street,
Stanford, CA 94305 USA
From Joan to Ken Calderia
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 3:43 PM
Looked up in the sky lately? I'm 62 and I know what our weather used to be like. For you to feign ignorance of the mass aerosol spraying of the planet is totally ridiculous.
You are smart enough to know the difference between contrails and the extensive aerosol sky war taking place over our heads. And I imagine that if you have done computer models, you have also been in touch with those in the position to marshal the military to conduct these programs.
It's too bad that you as a researcher don't put your efforts to investigate the nefarious effects of nanoparticles of aluminum, strontium, and barium, as well as who knows what else on the population of the world, as well as the water supply, the tress, insects, birds, animals, soil, etc. Or maybe you just don't care because you are so much wiser than the rest of the crowd.
This spraying effects the health of you and your family and friends as well. Maybe you should look into it and make an effort to stop it.
Thank you, and look forward to your helping end this plague.
Joan ****
From Ken Calderia to Joan
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 6:47 PM
I do not believe that you know the full range of how normal contrails can appear.
There are many more planes than when you were a kid, so of course their are more contrails.
I prefer to work on real environmental threats and not imaginary ones.
Ken Caldeira
From Joan to Ken Calderia
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 6:56 PM
Your education must have left holes in your head. Contrails dissipate--aerosols don not. As a former flight attendant I can attest that planes do not fly in a checkerboard all over the sky and then the sun disappears the rest of the day. Either you are totally ignorant and so full of yourself that you buy the party line, or you are a front man, and are lying.
You cannot claim ignorance anymore, and one day you will be held accountable for your lack of caring.
From Dane Wigington to Ken Calderia
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 6:56 PM
 Ken,
I met you in San Diego, 2010 at the AAAS conference though I am sure you do not remember. I believe David Keith however remembers me and my questions which the world has now witnessed.
I hope you find your honor Ken, and admit to the truth. How do you face your children while perpetuating the lie that geoengineering is not already going on? That it has not been going on for decades?
Perhaps you have convinced yourself of the lies, but the public is waking up very quickly to them. I believe one day soon all those that pushed these insane programs of planetary destruction will have much explaining to do.
Where is your honor Mr. Caldeira?
Dane Wigington
From Ken Calderia to Dane Wigington and Joan
Thursday, May 23, 2013, 10:34 PM
I am speaking the truth.
Why don't you focus on the real threats to our environment (CO2 emissions, deforestation, etc) or real government conspiracies (kidnapping and torture, drones, Guantanamo, etc), instead of your baseless fantasies
From Joan to Ken Calderia
Friday, May 24, 2013, 6:59 AM
I AM focused on these things as well and not very happy about them--For you to totally ignore what is going on in the skies considering your background is ludicrous. Even if you believe that CO2 is destroying the planet, it seems that you would also be concerned of the bigger threat that chemtrails play. The continual spraying of heavy metals into the skies of the world on a daily basis several times a day makes whatever you think about CO2 emissions dwarf in comparison. Since you are focused on the skies as a researcher, I cannot believe that you have not noticed what is taking place. IT IS ONLY OBVIOUS if you look up.
Since we're on the same page about the other things, I am calling on you again to investigate this and do something to save the integrity of the planet. If not, then as I said before, one day you will be called to account.
From Dane Wigington to Ken Calderia
Friday, May 24, 2013, 9:24 AM
As I have already asked Mr. Caldeira, where is your honor? For you to so tenaciously hold to the lie that geoenineering is a "baseless fantasy" can mean only one of three things, you are pathological lier, you are blind, or your are nothing more than a paid government shill.
The truth about the ongoing geoengineering and those who helped to hide it will be known by the public at large soon enough. Even if you have actually convinced yourself of the lie that geoengineering is not already going on, your advocation for geoengineering as a "cure" under any circumstances further shows your lack of rational prospective.
Human activity has indeed done great damage to the planet (the greatest single factor being geoengineering), and the issues of rising Co2 and methane are very real and imminent dangers, but stratospheric aerosol geoengneering is a "cure" that we already know is far worse than the disease. How can you even theorize that completely saturating the earths atmosphere with toxic nano particles would help anything? How total is your arrogance and insanity to believe you and the rest of the geoengineers could "play God" with the climate?
There is no need to "theorize" on the issue of geoengineering Mr. Caldeira, we can already say for certain that the ongoing geoengineering is decimating the planet and making our collective situation much more dire on all fronts. I live in a wilderness area that was beautiful and healthy only a decade ago. In that time, the constant spraying has brought our forests in Northern California to the breaking point, trees are dying everywhere. We continue to experience horrific drought as the geoengineering aerosols diminish and disperse our rainfall (the science is clear on the drought causing effect of atmospheric spraying). The rain that does fall is highly toxic. Testing of our rain done by the State certified lab has shown very high levels of aluminum and barium in every single test of some 5 dozen tests performed. Some tests had as much as 3450 ppb of aluminum. Where is all that metal coming from Ken? No, not from China as CARB (California Air Resources Board) studies have shown. So much metal has fallen in our forests in the last ten years that soil PH values have escalated some 12 to 14 times toward alkaline. The forest is dying Ken, I live here, I know. It is silent. The waters flow with aluminum and other toxic metals so much so that aquatic insect populations are now down some 90%. The same is now true for terrestrial insect populations. I have a background in solar energy Mr Caldeira, I often loose as much as 80% of my PV uptake from the grid patterns left in the sky from the spraying. When the sun does shine through the UV is so intense it is literally burning the leaves and the bark off of many native trees as geoengineering is shredding the ozone layer.
You tell me to worry about Co2, kidnapping, torture, drones, Guantanamo, and not the "baseless fantasy" of geoengineering. Every breath my beautiful children take in is laden with the toxic metals you say are just a "fantasy" Ken, the lab tests prove it. Autism has now gone up fully 10,000%, 1 in 50 kids now has it. Autism is directly linked to aluminum exposure Ken, is this a "fantasy" also?
In regard to the Co2 count, which has just crested 400 ppm as I am sure you are well aware, the planet and life on earth would at least survive without geoengineering poisoning the entire web of life. Are you even familiar with the "Pliocene Epoch"? In this era of earths history 3 to 5 million years ago, atmospheric carbon was significantly higher than today and life thrived. There was an increased hydrological cycle and the wester US was much more lush according to paleoclimatic data. It was not a droughted out and poisoned disaster as it is now. True, sea levels were some 100 plus feet higher, but at least life thrived. You tell me to worry about Co2 when your geoenigneering has turned my forest from a carbon sink to a carbon source as it dies and burns to the ground.
Geoengineering is decimating the planet and the climate as a whole, shredding the ozone layer, completely disrupting the hydrological cycle, poisoning life from the clouds to the ground, and trapping more radiant heat than it deflects, how is your geoengineering helping?
Men like you have brought the planet and all life to the brink Mr. Caldeira, how do you live with yourself? How do you look your children in the eyes without turning away in shame?
From Joan to Ken Calderia
Friday, May 24, 2013, 9:54 AM
You are the one who has the contacts to make this possible. These people are not expressing concern because they are getting major funding from those in the military/industrial complex to conduct this bizarre experiment on planet earth. Do you think military contractors are going to stop making war machines because it is against all moral and ethical codes?
These are the same people who thought the A-bomb, the Tuskeegee Experiment, Agent Orange, Concentration Camps, etc. were a good idea.
I see we are on the same page with the other abuses of government. Why do you think their hands would be clean here? You don't have to be a scientist to look up every day and observe the skies. You can see a blue sky turn to white and the sun disappear. You are against deforestation--these chemtrails and the nanometals in them are killing the forests in the Sierras, Shasta, etc., not to mention the insects, the brids, the wildlife, the water, the soil and HUMANITY.
I am calling on you once again to serve humanity and to take action on this.
From Joan to Ken Calderia
Friday, May 24, 2013, 10:26 AM
"Professing themselves wise, they became as fools..."
New discoveries almost always hail from outside the field. This is because those within are too busy defending an outdated paradigm instead of opening their minds to new ideas.
You seem to have a lot of free time to defend yourself in emails. If you truly wish to be open-minded and scientific, I suggest you watch "'Why in the World Are they Spraying" on You Tube. or go to geoengineering.com to find out the reality behind chemtrails. If you wish to remain in the past, then here is a message for you and your masters:
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED BECAUSE YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO DESECRATE THE EARTH.
From Ken Calderia to Joan
Friday, May 24, 2013, 11:30 AM
I want to spend my time working on things where I have expertise and there is clear and incontrovertible evidence. I am a climate modeler who has some expertise in large scale processes but no expertise related to observational studies of cloud-aerosol interactions.
Why don't you approach the top 20 experts on atmospheric aerosols and then top 20 experts on cloud formation and try to get them to make an assessment? In this area, I will follow their lead. If ChemTrails are really so pervasive, why aren't these people expressing concern? Do you really think they too are part of the conspiracy, or maybe they feel this is not worth wasting their time on.
From Ken Calderia to Dane Wigington and Joan
Friday, May 24, 2013, 12:28 PM
I have work to do, and do not have time to spend trying to bring reality to fantasists.
From Ken Calderia to Joan
Friday, May 24, 2013, 5:28 PM
I wasn't trying to defend myself. I was trying to inform you.
I see now that that was not a good use of my time.
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