Originally Posted by AntiPoA21

Now about this ETC group:
I find this outfit to be pretty sketchy.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to what they are exactly and with whom they are associated.


They are a Canadian NGO, with a longish prehistory of concern with ecological issues, apparently starting with erosion. They are said to be taking money from the Ford Foundation.

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It is to my understanding that this group sold out the rest of us "lower orders" to not pursue or acknowledge past and ongoing chemtrail activities so that they could parlay out this so called moratorium on our behalf.


I think that they deserve kudos for having achieved the moratorium. That said, the question arises of what can be done with it, given that it is not being observed. And I don't think that the ETC group can help us with that. It is up to us to decide what to try to do with the tool they have given us.

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I have poked around ETC a bit in the past and they certainly are privy to some very interesting topics that are closely related to chemtrails - ie: heavily into nano tech and genetics.
Please shed some light on exactly who these people are and what they stand for.


I don’t know any more than you do. It seems to me that they are opponents of geoengineering but they are operating in the context of the unreality of all established political discourse on subjects like this. I think the point is to try to outnumber them, get a stronger base than they have, and use that as a basis for negotiating with them.

One cannot frame any comparable strategies in relation to the mainstream “climate change skeptics” because if the sceptics say anything at all about geoengineering it tends to be favourable rather than unfavourable.

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If you agree that Robock is dirty than perhaps his link above should be forwarded to H.O.M.E. or ETC group - and as we did here, expose his deceptive nature and proof that he is a man that is manipulative and cannot be trusted. That is, if you feel these communities are worth the effort.


On the surface Robock and the ETC group seem to be saying almost the same thing. But Robock is an “inside” critic, whereas the ETC group are much more outside. I think that it is up to us to put them in different categories and treat them differently. Rather than telling the ETC group that Robock is dirty, I think the thing to do is to ask Robock if he supports Hands off Mother Earth, and if he doesn’t, ask why. That is more to the point than getting into the demeaning street discussion with him that Mauro got into.

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STOPPING CHEMTRAILS - that is what is this all about folks - not petty bickering or "sounding off" over sub issues.

Well, they are on paper illegal now. Everyone but Americans can confront their governments about that.

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David Rockefeller, members of the CFR, members of the UN etc etc. These are the ones directly responsible for putting forth the deadly eugenics directives; they are also going to be the hardest to get to. But that is not our order of operations here - one step at a time.


Whatever the purposes of chemtrails, it is only in relation to “geoengineering” that a public response is being invited at this time. And if a public response is not invited, we talk to ourselves, not to anyone else.