I have no more intention of discussing global warming with you
Well, considering that global warming is the "issue" being used to justify the need for geoengineering, it's interesting that global warming seems irrelevant to you in this context.
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It's wonderful to think that the world is so very wealthy that a single nation -- America -- can consider spending $100 billion a year on a problem that may not exist. (Edward Teller, geoengineering advocate)
In this respect our discussion is repetitive. I keep making this point. You keep ignoring it.
It's fundamentally faulty logic to BELIEVE that global warming exists simply because governments spend money to fight it.
Is this the basis for your claim of global warming?
The fact is, global warming is a cash cow - just like the current American wars are - for certain powerful politicians and corporations.
Global warming is a multibillion dollar business, and Al Gore stood to profit enormously, as did many other influential politicians and corporations.
When I went to school, they taught us global cooling. We were all made to fear the coming ice age. I'm not kidding.
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If you want people in other countries to place more trust in the government of the United States than in the United Nations you had better start doing something to show that you can influence the government of the United States
Strawman.
I'm not asking anyone to place faith in any nation's government. I didn't say that.
I'm simply stating that the centralization of power is a very bad idea.
Remember, the U.S. had (doesn't much anymore) a separation of power for a reason.
The U.N. is wholesale corrupt. Trust it/them? Never.
The big players and profiteers in the global warming swindle are still tied in with the U.N., and the U.N. is helping them.
How nice it would be if someone were paying me to do what I am doing. So far only the government of Cyprus has shown any sign whatsoever of being even marginally responsive to the problematic we elaborate on this forum, and I am not on their payroll. No governments are helping with what we are trying to do. I say “we” because I think you really are concerned about chemtrails.
Ah, so after all, it's only your local government - NOT the U.N. that shows any sign of concern about chemtrails.
That's what I've been saying all along.
The government closest to the people. Not Rockefeller's corrupt U.N.
Remember, Rockefeller, the founder of the U.N., is also the primary force behind depopulation:
I prefer to phrase the question differently. The question I want to ask is why they have signed a moratorium they show no signs of respecting of observing. This puts the onus on them to explain what purposes they believe the spraying is serving.
To answer your question, I have initiated contact with a Greek scientist who was present at in Nagoya (or at least with her secretary) and I hope to be able to ask her questions. Also, one of the Greek parliamentarians who has raised the chemtrails issue in parliament rang me yesterday to get information about the moratorium. The Greek scientist, Katsaros, who is most associated by the Greek public with the chemtrails issue has been interviewed frequently recently and has emphasized the moratorium (and the Enouranois website), on Cypriot television and in the Greek print media.
So in other words I am pursuing the strategy I outlined to you. How are you progressing with your climate scepticism and states-rights strategy?
You let us know how the question-asking goes. Good luck with that.
As far as getting the issue to the states, it would be a lot easier if people were not delaying our efforts by giving people false hope in the United Nations.
Ironically, your links support grassroots initiatives.
Isn't that what I've been saying all along?
Again, let us know how the question-asking goes with your U.N. rep.
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The "this is all garbage" response of the grass-roots climate change sceptic has a positive side to it, but the negative side is that the intellectual content of the scepticism breaks the alliance with the only potential allies in the scientific community: the ETC and HOME opponents of geoengineering.
The big name climate change sceptics are not allies because they don't want to talk about geoengineering, unless it is to talk in favour of it.
As I've been saying...
Global warming is the SINGLE issue that is being used to justify the need for geoengineering (chemtrails).
If you remove global warming from the table (which is should be because it's a haox), then there is absolutely no need for spraying metal into the atmosphere.
Very simple. Very effective.
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To wax ironical about the moratorium and depict the ETC group as tools of the NWO because they receive funding from the Ford Foundation or whatever, is to AVOID confrontation at the only interface we are being offered: the moratorium.
No, that is not the ONLY interface.
The most effective interface has always been with local governments, and definitely NOT the U.N.
This issue involves all people of every nation being sprayed, and is therefore - by it's very structure - a grassroots movement.
Depending on the U.N. is foolish on all fronts.
This is not an issue for the U.N. The U.N. is the foundation of these issues as they have incessantly promoted the very claim that justifies geoengineering (chemtrails), namely global warming.
To believe that they are the ONLY interface is simply untrue.
We should follow the DSHEA model. A grassroots movement educating and motivating people with truth.
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Several videos explaining the global warming fraud:
