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Why are you lying about me?
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faith in pseudo con science... why don't you write to God for a mailorder on a brain!
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infact.... go get yourself mercury poisoned, and then we'll talk!!
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faithinscience... I'll let the first post speak for itself. Yes, this is an example of a criminal who is aiding and abetting the single largest crime in human history: Toxic Aerosol Spraying... Chemtrails. Here is one of their posts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jX3mbksyhsThe response come from this IP address: 134.174.163.235 Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns1.med.harvard.edu.] Harvard Med, how interesting. I decided to respond to their latest post. Let's see if they respond, or if they even let my post be displayed.Here's what I wrote. It's hard to provide evidence when you censor posts.
You paid sell-outs are just as responsible for the lives that are being lost from barium/aluminum -induced heart attacks, cancers, and other chemtrail-related diseases.
You are aiding and abetting the single largest crime against humanity in human history.
Let us see if you are brave enough to allow this post to display.
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You act as if I haven't posted something you wrote. Sorry, I have posted everything. Including this recent post. But, if you are going to continue to accuse me of some sort of criminal activity, I suggest you provide some evidence. I am actually educated in the subjects of Aviation and meteorology, I was a pilot for many years and have the credentials to prove it. You say you are/were a pilot...please tell me what an OBS is.
As far as your pitiful and paranoid accusations about me being paid to discredit the "chemtrail" believer community, I suggest you provide some evidence, or stfu. You couldn't be more wrong if you wanted to be. I'm just a person who enjoys posting fact where uneducated and ignorant paranoids post BS about subjects they know NOTHING about. Your youtube/conspiracy site "education" has failed you. You have fallen for a hoax and are spreading lies about people based on your assumptions and ignorance. You are a fool.
Also, why WOULDN'T I let you ridiculous paranoid posts "be displayed"?!? It's excellent comedy!! I'm looking forward to the next one!
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Also, why are you posting my ip info? I have made no secret that I work for a "large University" on the east coast. And here you are posting my private information publicly?! Talk about criminal activity!
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You say you are/were a pilot...please tell me what an OBS is. You're a bad listener. I never said I was a pilot. I said I used to fly. My entire family owned and flew small planes, acrobatic and otherwise. I flew with them often and took flying lessons. As far as your pitiful and paranoid accusations about me being paid to discredit the "chemtrail" believer community, I suggest you provide some evidence, or stfu. The irony is that you are the paranoid one. You are too afraid to look at the evidence. The idea that there is a multinational population reduction campaign is so scary to you that you choose to reject the evidence-based idea without even checking it out. You actually sound like a university professional.. Oh yea. (1) Here's a true lesson in paranoid denial:http://urlbam.com/ha/NzzzHere is the evidence of a multinational population reduction program:http://urlbam.com/ha/M001RHere's another lesson about paying attention to details (do you have mercury fillings?)I didn't say, "being paid". I said "being compensated". You couldn't be more wrong if you wanted to be. I'm just a person who enjoys posting fact where uneducated and ignorant paranoids post BS about subjects they know NOTHING about. Your youtube/conspiracy site "education" has failed you. Here's a lesson for you Mr. sellout. My conspiracy education has nothing to do with YouTube. I have been studying white collar crime, law, and conspiracy to commit crimes for 20 years, long before YouTube existed. My serious study of large-scale conspiracies began after witnessing events that were later lied about in the national news media. Not mistaken. Not misreported. Lied about. I then found a surprising number of people who witnessed outright mainstream media lies that they had witnessed as well. We were part of a political group that formed a study group and began doing legal research. We found incredible lies, coverups, and conspiracies embedded in the way laws were being applied. Our study venue included law libraries, government book depositories, and law references. I understand that you've bought into your personal "conspiracy theory" stereotype those stereotypes that you've seen on the news (and YouTube) yourself (how ironic), but that stereotype is a lie. Large-scale conspiracies began to become in vogue in the U.S. when they gained credibility. This began when ex-military officers began sharing information and discovering that the U.S. was involved in compartmentalization in order to conceal illegal activities. These retired military officers, having solid credibility, began to expose crimes against humanity that were being committed. The military industrial complex began to fight back by attempting to discredit them (a typical tactic). You see, your stereotype about large-scale conspiracies has been formed by the emotional coercion that you are subject to, not fact, not reality, but your desire. An emotional view of reality is formed in people who face trauma and need to block out information that is too scary or traumatic to handle. In short, those who deny conspiracies are too paranoid to face the evidence. This is why their arguments are emotionally-based. The simple truth is that nearly all white collar crime committed today is committed by 2 or more people, by definition, a conspiracy. Also, why are you posting my ip info? I have made no secret that I work for a "large University" on the east coast. And here you are posting my private information publicly?! Wrong again Mr. University. (1) You're misinformed. Your IP address is not private information. (2) You're contradicting yourself. If you make no secret of it, then how is it "private"? Does someone need a hug?
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What you call "evidence" is nothing but ignorant nonsense created by OTHER ignorant chemtards.
I can see that I'm wasting my time with you. You win.
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Obviously, you're too paranoid to actually watch the video evidence I provided for you. Typical. Then again, this type of behavior is typical from criminal debunkers. I will remind you once again: You're lies about chemtrails combined with your refusal to actually view the evidence are physically harming people. http://urlbam.com/ha/M001R
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You are claiming that I am "lying". Please provide evidence of any such thing. Please explain why steam from engine exhaust won't turn into man made clouds in the right conditions and show me the evidence of any chemicals. Your link to "Herb Allure" peddlers means nothing to me (yes, I watched the video). Prove to me that the trails in the sky are any more harmful to people than the buses at ground level in NYC, or the cars on any highway. It's pollution, yeah...but an intentional spray program?! Sorry, there is no evidence. I am well aware of the claims of different chemicals affecting children and adults in many ways. But, there is ZERO evidence to suggest that any of these things come from the trails! Industrial wastes have been pouring into our oceans, air and soil for many decades! Is there a CHANCE that the sources of these elements are NOT the trails?! OF COURSE! You make the claim that the trails are the source, I'm asking for evidence. I have seen NONE!
You keep claiming that I am "liar". I am NOT. I FIRMLY believe that the science proves you people wrong! YOU are the ones making the claims, and then backing up such claims with the same old rhetoric and circumstantial "evidence".
A student pilot, is still a pilot. If you took even a few lesson, I would imagine that you would know what an OBS is. Oh well...not important.
You keep claiming that I am a criminal, please provide evidence for any such thing. If anyone is a criminal here it's you. You are an uneducated alarmist who spreads hate and lies about subjects you obviously know nothing about. There are hundreds of thousands of people who make a living through flying and you are tarnishing their reputations with your ignorant lies.
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Have you visited contrailscience.com? Can you please challenge any of the info on that site? This is about science, not about claims about government spray programs that have nothing to back them up! Yes, people get sick from MANY sources on the planet, why concentrate on the trails? Why not concentrate on unregulated industrial dumping? Everything that ends up in our water/soil/are is carried around the world through the water cycle. Again, science. Please tell me why I have seen these trails all of my life, while other people from my area are now claiming they didn't see the until last year/month when some chemtrail activist first pointed them out. Of COURSE these trails have pollution in them...as with ALL sources of combustion.
Calling me a liar or a paid whatever doesn't absolve YOU from the responsibility to use logic and reason to justify your claims. You have no proof that these trails are any more harmful to the population than the cars in ANY given square mile at ground level...but you completely ignore the potential in favor of the speculation/assumption based on bad information.
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You are claiming that I am "lying". Please provide evidence of any such thing. It is impossible to have any true knowledge of jet engines and believe that they produce contrails. This is well established, and this is why I've been a faithful skywatcher for over 30 years and have never seen a contrail, despite living in and traveling through the world's most densely-traveled airspace. So, logic dictates that you either don't know anything about physics and are making up an opposing position in ignorance (lying, willfully or otherwise) or are being deliberately deceptive because you are being compensated somehow (lying). Logic dictates: You are lying. It is absurd to believe that these huge, persistent plumes that increase in size and spread out across the sky - as tens-of-thousand are witnessing - are not particulate matter. They have to be in order to behave this way. Again, if you know anything about physics, you know this, so one way or the other, you are lying. Your link to "Herb Allure" peddlers means nothing to me (yes, I watched the video). Provide evidence that you watched it. Name the most famous person funding the activity in question in the video. The video is documented, so I will let other onlooker be their own judge: http://urlbam.com/ha/M001RProve to me that the trails in the sky are any more harmful to people than the buses at ground level in NYC, or the cars on any highway. (1) The government has admitted that an aerosol (spraying) program is in progress. (2) FOIA documentation has been released proving that a government-funded aerosol spraying program is in progress. (3) Government contractors have admitted on tape (video and audio) that a government-funded aerosol spraying program is in progress. (4) I can smell and taste chemtrails. I have an very sensitive sense of taste and smell. The stuff that comes out of jet engines - normally - does not have these odors. I have been contacted by many others who also smell and taste chemtrails. (5) Chemtrails make people sick. Being that you are not in the business of helping people, you have not - as I have - spoken to people and had contact with people all over the U.S. and in different countries who are experiencing the same symptoms that I and my business partner and some of our friends experience ...only when spraying occurs. There is a 1-to-1 relationship between spraying events and a list of consistent symptoms that occur. (6) When the spraying began in the town I used to live in (2005), until the time I moved, more people died (in that town) than I have ever known in the entire rest of my life combined. Also, we had 2 cats, the neighbors had 1. 2 of these 3 cats died. (7) Rainwater tests conducted in many locations turned up extremely high levels of aluminum and barium. (8) Soil samples have been taken in many locations that are showing extremely high levels of aluminum and barium. (9) During heavy spray events, of bats continually have fallen out of the sky dead for no known reason. (10) I witnessed a sizable ladybug colony die off during 3 days of very heavy spraying. They all died. This has also happened in many areas of the country. (11) Bees have died of opportunistic infections in enormous numbers which is characteristic of immune system suppression, consistent with aluminum or mercury poisoning. (12) The symptoms of the people I have spoken with - who are still alive - have had symptoms characteristic of mercury, aluminum, and barium poisoning. (13) Industrial air filtration units have had collected particulates tested and have shown very large amounts of barium salts and aluminum. (14) Snow samples have been analyzed and shown extremely high levels of aluminum and barium. (15) Trees in various locations have contracted a new, unknown "disease" in which the bark turns white from the ground up. This bark has been tested and shown to contain very high levels of aluminum. (16) Chemtrails cause dramatic inflammation in me leading to headaches, muscle aches, and heart problems (and much more). This is consistent with aluminum poisoning. Chemtrails also cause stomach pain (when they are intense) which is consistent with barium poisoning. (17) Chemtrails cause various similar symptoms in my business partner. (18) Chemtrails cause various similar symptoms in other people that we know that correlate with spraying events. (19) The USAF is leasing 100 tankers. They are also purchasing 179 more. Being that we are currently under no threat that would require long-range fighter or bomber refueling, this is strange to say the least. (20) Obama made a public statement that the government is considering spraying "pollution particles" into the atmosphere to fight "global warming". It is well known that the government often begins actual operations years before revealing them to the public. You only know this by studying law (as we have). For example, wire tapping legislation was passed in the mid 90s' while no one was paying attention. the public in general didn't learn about until after 9/11. There are countless examples of the government employing this MO. (21) In experimenting with detox supplementation programs, my business partner and I (and several others we know) have had notable success targeting the removal of aluminum (with magnesium malate or malic acid), barium and mercury (with DMSA and ALA). (22) People are reporting elevated levels of blood-aluminum across the country. Nearly every person I've spoken to in the past few years who had a recent blood test has elevated aluminum. I could go on, but from the above, there is ample evidence all pointing to a similar conclusion. The visual spraying can plainly be witnessed - and despite what you claim, this is relatively recent except in a few places. It has occurred as early as 1986, but only became widespread after 2000. The sense of smell is another mode of scientific observation. That fact that I - and others - can smell chemtrails is evidence. The sense of taste is another mode of scientific observation. As I said, I - and others - can taste chemtrails in the air. There are so many pieces of plain evidence evidencing this type of activity and the very materials that they are apparently spraying, any reasonable person would be able to recognize a very strong pattern, one not worthy of blond-condemnation, but of continued exploration. It's pollution, yeah...but an intentional spray program?! Sorry, there is no evidence. You know what makes me sick about you types? You lie. I've been a researcher for 12 years, self publishing scientific information - from peer reviewed medical journals - in a way that is readable to the public. Yet, there is "renown" doctor after doctor on the news that claims that "there is no evidence showing that any herb does anything". This is an outright lie, and the needless pain and suffering that is occurring because of these lies is criminal. There is not only ample research on herbs, there is far more research on herbs than on any pharmaceutical, yet, people continue to suffer and die from side-effects needlessly because of people like you. Yes, just like you. Industrial wastes have been pouring into our oceans, air and soil for many decades! Is there a CHANCE that the sources of these elements are NOT the trails?! OF COURSE! You make the claim that the trails are the source, I'm asking for evidence. I have seen NONE! You see what you want to see, as I've said, either because you're too paranoid to face the evidence (lying to yourself) or you're being compensated to lie. There is evidence, but you choose not to be honest about it, and people suffer as a result of your disinformation. These is no reasonable chance that the barium and aluminum that we have seen skyrocketing in the soils is from long-term existing factory pollution. None. You keep claiming that I am "liar". I am NOT. I FIRMLY believe that the science proves you people wrong! What science? Where? You haven't shown me any. No, you are a liar, as I've stated previously, because you are compensated or because you are lying to yourself by refusing to actually look at evidence. Either way, you're a liar and it's disgusting. A student pilot, is still a pilot. If you took even a few lesson, I would imagine that you would know what an OBS is. Oh well...not important. Apparently important enough for you to bring it up again, so obviously another lie. My lessons were over 25 years ago. Is this what you call evidence in attempting to prove that I'm lying? Unbelievable. You keep claiming that I am a criminal, please provide evidence for any such thing. You are making false statements that are harmful to people. It's just like saying that there is no contamination at the 9/11 site when there is. People got sick. Some died. Thank you. You're a real hero. You are an uneducated alarmist who spreads hate and lies about subjects you obviously know nothing about. You are obviously a wet-behind-the-ears philosopher want-to-be. You have no idea how many people I've helped in my life and what kinds of sacrifices I've made. I'm a researcher and activist who is helping to expose a crime against humanity on a scale never before seen. I am suffering from chemtrail symptoms to a debilitating degree and have notified my proper state departments asking for an investigation and for help putting an end to it. My work is a work of helping people. People like you - who falsely accuse people of spreading hate and fear - are sickening to me. You get in the way of real progress and real help, and you probably think you're wonderful. There are hundreds of thousands of people who make a living through flying and you are tarnishing their reputations with your ignorant lies. And you're protecting their reputations with unwarranted statements, English expletives, and insults? Ironically, many of these pilots are coming out to say that something very strange is going on because jet engines to not emit enormous plumes that spread out across the sky and cause overcast weather. Meteorologist have also come out saying the same things, as have other educated professionals. One thing I have learned by helping people is that very few people are leaders. There are people who make things happen. There are people who watch things happen, and there are those who things happen to. And yet, there is one other type. It is the type that ruins the ability to send email without aggravation because they spam for their own profit at the expense of everyone else. Your behavior puts you in this group. As I said previously, you are either in deep denial or you've sold your soul for a buck at the expense of your fellow human beings. Thanks. I really appreciate people who work for the good of people and provide solutions. I really despise people who do what you do because of the pain and suffering you contribute to.
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Wow, you really are insane.
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Insane? Actually, I consider "denying what you see before your very eyes" as insane. I am simply using my observations coupled with real research to find motive, opportunity, and real evidence that we are being sprayed. Your lies are particularly insulting to me because we are suffering daily from the horrible effects of chemtrail spraying. As I stated previously, I can smell and taste the chemicals/metals in the air when they spray and I have spoken to many others that can as well. Additionally, I have spoken with many others in different areas who are experiencing the very same debilitating health symptoms that we are experiencing when spraying occurs. Considering all of the evidence, it doesn't take much intelligence to see that something very significant is occurring here. When I was a teenager, I had amalgam fillings put in my mouth. For those who know about these things, amalgam fillings - often called "silver" fillings - cause well over 100 diseases. If it were not for people like you continually debunking what we now know to be true - namely that mercury is poisonous and should not be installed in the body - I would not have lost half my life to health problems and depression from mercury poisoning. Thank you for being part of the problem. As I said before, the harm and suffering your kind causes people absolutely disgusts me to the core. http://urlbam.com/ha/M001R
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ADMIN NOTE: The account making this post (#776) is a disinformation sellout. For more information, see: http://globalskywatch.com/chemtrails/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=655&Number=778#Post778Hey FaithInScience, hit me up on myspace/***. This forum is definitely a government propaganda operation. Ive been banned from posting because I tell the REAL reason for the chemtrails and that is they are HIDING PLANET X!!! News here: http://www.***.com/***
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I got rheumatic symptoms and worse just a week after i drilled out my amalgams!!! And that's a fact!
The fact that the same has happened to other people who also got rid of their amalgams, confirms that the amalgams (mercury, etc) did directly cause my rheumatic symptoms (sufferings)!
And it's not just one or two cases here compared to mine, it hundreds of cases, real people, on forums, etc.... people i speak with in the street, etc.... people i meet..
It's the same with chemtrails! Ofcourse, i will not deny the possibility of the watercycle's possible fault of clouding our skies, but i have personally experienced the effects of amalgams and theire removal, and have researched that THEY KNEW that mercury was dangerous way back in the 1830's... and they still installed that alloy in our MOUTHS of all places, every day since then......
What do you call that?
They did that on purpose... that's logic... they knew the danger of mercury... still they installed it in our mouths.... the same with chemtrails....
Ofcourse i agree that the water cycle can be partly responsible for dis-eases, that is only logical, but to deny that chemtrails is done on purpose while knowing that the amalgam scandal was done on purpose is denial!
If someone is capable of doing something as mal as amalgam poisoning of the general population, then they are also cabable of spraying chemicals on the general population as well, infact capable of anything... satanic.... against humanity!!!
So..... why not look at what Admin calls evidence, with a set of open eyes for a change...
you know... Einstein said: Condemnation without investigation is the hight of IGNORANCE!!!
And we have investigated and we open our mouths, but you.... what have you investigated???
You are like a religious fanatic, claimning without investigation that the other party are wrong!
Please take time to investigate.... and please do with an open mindset and not with PREJUDICE, because if you research something when you already has made your mind, then you will only find what you WANT TO SEE...
It's the same with taste... a child with prejudice about a particular food will reject it and say yuuuck, even if they might have liked it.....
The whole thing is just immature.... infantile....
Please ignore my insults, and take a look at the "evidence" one more time... and this time with an OPEN MIND!
Infact, i'm challanging you to do so!
Because.... It is in the grand total... the largest numbers of ignorant people on this planet, who let's this happen to all of us and the rest of us by denying it and therefor ridecule it, and then it continues to happen as almost no one complains...
Ignorance is infact inderectly helping "satan" (if you will), crushing us...
Even if it's not conscious or on purpose, people that laughs about "conspiracy nuts", without investigating their claims, are helping the mal people doing harm to us, by letting stuff happen untalkted about because of ridecule!
Never mind if a thing sound crazy, cars sounded crazy 300 years ago too.... see the analogy....
Every stone should be turned, every corner searched, even if it sounds too crazy to be true... you see?
Who's a beliver and who's the researcher?
The "conspiracy nut" or the sceptic?
Sceptics typicly say that a subject sounds to crazy to be worth researching, so they (sceptics or debunkers) IGNORE without INVESTIGATION, and keeps on rideculing the "conspiracy nut" based on what sound right or crazy to them.
Who's the "almost religious like" beliver, and who has done their homework then?
Who knows not what they are talking about, and who is "educated", you see.. education does not nessecarily have to come from a govornment owned instance, but the word education means infact that.. education.. and that can come from everything.. teaching yourself... selfthought.... learning from others... people.... no matter if the people you learn from has a title from a school, university or has no title at all....
It's the search... the logic, the hypotesis testing, etc, control groups, knowing the other side of the case, etc... that matters...
True science.... true search... true testing...
You see.. part of the problem is how we define science....
yes science from for example harvard may be valid and good science, and it's methods too... but... there IS a lot of sloppy science, maybe done on purpose or not... whatever... and there IS political correctness... even in the western countries...
However, beeing so arogant that to say that non mainstream research is false and flawed, is just that.. arogant and ignorant!
Besides.. how can you really be sure of anything if you have not researched and seen with your own eyes?!
Are you just going to take someone's word for things?
So you trust the govornment, you trust the media, you trust the millitary for doing the right things, you trust propaganda (and yes, it exists even in the modern world), and you just take their words for things... that's PLAIN OLD BELIVE, call it religion if you will...
And you know... sceptics gets as mad as religios fanatics while trying to defend their believes when chanllanged!
You see the parallel?
So who knows what they are talking about, and who does not?!
We "the conspiracy nuts", does not blindly belive... we research, and we compare to real life, and we compare with each others to check if stuff is valid or invalid.... in great numbers... we cooperate!
Ofcourse, our info sources and info content may be invalid or wrong, whatever... but as you sceptics... we are not source critic for the most... we are CONTENT CRITIC! In english.. we are using our b.s filters, based on both logic and what we already know... we build from there and test our new reading materials...
Ofcourse after researching for a while... and coming to conclusions, we learn to see a patern that what comes from gov is automaticly prejudiced to be lies... but ofcourse even then we research the other version.. or the gov version of things... just to be thorough...
that is real research.... we know beforehand that the gov is full of s..., but we study what they say either way too...
So..... do you have to go to school to learn something valid? or can you be self thought....
Do you have to go to school to open an own business.... NO!
But why... why is the mainstream of people... most people in numbers saying that alarmists are conspiracy nuts then?
because they either don't care to research before rideculing because they are uninterrested in the subject and the subject doesn't apply to their lifes.... or that they are just to scared to join the wagon of political uncorrectness... i think that for the most part... it's argument 1 that applies...
and what is arg.1... a religious like beleif that it can't be true because it sound too crazy and unlikely to be true.... so they get angry definding theire beleif when theire beleifs are beein challanged...
We on the other hand.... get MAAAAAAD at ignorant "religious like" robot people calling us crazy on NO BASIS AT ALL (you have not done your homework to have a basis to say against us, at all!!).
What if we are right after all?? what if... no matter how crazy things SOUNDS..?! what if....
be open to everything...
Think.... mentioning a computer with a voice interface and 3D graphics 500years ago...... think...... crazy?? Yes.... But true?? can it be done? Yes.... But did they THINK it could be possible back then?? NO!!
My God... sceptics... Be sceptic.. thats healthy... but also be open minded.. and research with an open mind, before saying against and calling "alarmists" crazy people.....
That is all i have to say...
If this doesnt make you humble, i don't know what will!
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And btw,, how can you sceptics say that we have not done OUR homework if you have not studied what we have studied?
I say.. that if you had studied what we have studied... you would have cometh to the same conclusions as we have... corruption exists, and is very real.. even in high places.. specially there!
But.. you go on saying that we sound the alarm on an empty bases.. we don't know what we are talking about..... how can you say that, you don't know what we have read, seen or not...
As we don't know what you have read and seen... however.. there's a diffrence...
As i said... If you had studied what we have.. you would DEFINATELY have cometh to the same conclusions as we have... and as you have not.... you clearly have not studied the basis for what we claim.
Can you turn that around the other way... no...
Please.. stop trolling the web... why do you even care??? For fun you say?
If so.. for fun... then get a life.. and stop bullying.... and trolling.... Have you not better use of your precious time than laughing at other people?! huh.. HUH HUUUH!?!!
Who cares what we think.... most of all you?! huh... Why not let us alone.... and stop bothering....
If what we say is true... you are bevildering people in search of what is true or not...
It's like two religious clans fighting each other... and the agressor (you the sceptics, even doing the agression just for fun as you say) have not done your homework, however, we, the "so called nuts", have studied the cases for what we sound the alarm for!
Maybe you think you care... care for people to not get bevildered by us "conspiracy nuts", so therefor you set up a fight against us, as a noble thing to do for humanity, in your minds...
maybe so...
Maybe we just fight each others, because we are set up against each others.. however.. it's YOU faithinscience... it's you that do this for FUN!!! and have btw also not studied our "evidence"..
It's you...... who... once again is doing this for fun as you say..... litterally bullying... I say you have no noble cause to fight what you belive is misinformation bevildering people... You just have no life of your own.. no better things to do with your precious time!!
Humor..... evil humor.... throwing gas at the campfire just to get a laugh??
No... man.. gimme a break.... get real... find something useful to do.... wanna laugh.... watch the late George Carlin... and btw... as you laugh... also know that he talked about conspiracy and used humor as a carrier wave to spread what he OBSERVED in life!
Now Carlin is good entertainment! And eye opening stuff!
Stop harrazing us... we are trying to help our selves and the rest of humanity, even you.... from not getting poisoned and lead a shorter life than nessecary!
We fight a noble cause for humanity.... you defend what you have been brainwashed to belive... AND YOU'RE DOING IT FOR FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For crying out loud!!!
Get a f....ing life!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do we care to use energy defending our case against you web trolls? why....
because we care about our poison free potential better lives and health, and every one elses too... we care about humanity..... we care about long poison free lives in perfect health, with personal sovereignity and truth!
We will not bow down to wrong doers. even if its on purpose from corrupt gov's, OR if it is just a natural side-effect of modern society.... either way... paranoid or not....
The world could be better than it is today... There is no denying that industry and big corporation is much without morale, dumping poison into oceans and the eco system, just to save a buck...
There is no denying the food industry is now full of "ERSATZ FOOD", just to save a buck.... Or could it be.. that they know that thei're products is no good? or even poisonous?
Ofcourse they know... they just wanna make and save a buck or two... billion.
Can you understand how some of us see this as maybe done on purpose?? Maybe it's not on purpose.... maybe it's just done in greed and because of a lack in morality and care for other people's well beeing...
How can people be that way.... it's inhuman...
So therefore... we think it is done on purpose... it must be... no one can be so inhumane as to poison our food and waters and skies on purpose... it's demonic... draconic... and so on...
However.... people have problems understanding sick and criminal people too... murderers.. rapists... etc.... how can they do such things... but they do...
Same with gov it seems..... how can they.... but the are.. they do.... How can i say that... because that alluminium is poisonous, mercury is too, radioactive (for crying out loud) barrium is a poison.. that SHOULD be common knowledge.. common sense to know and understand...
And if that is common sense... then it should also be common sense to our "leaders"... and if that is so..... then why are they puttin those poisons into our biosphere?!?!?! HUH!!!
Yes... this is deductive logic.. deductive conclusions.... yes.... but some conspiracy researchers has done much more thorrow digging than this.... as Admin say he has...
If you wanna trust his words and findings or not.. is up to you... But don't harraz on no basis... and certainly not for fun and entertainment!
Maybe you see diffrently than us.... but how can you.... everyone is diffrent yes.. but the world is the same... is it not....
Eitherway... mal things done on purpose or not..... The world as we know it today is a world full of industrial waste.. not healthy for us either way...
Why not do anything about that? We are...... on the grass root.. because in the courts we are rideculed by company spokespersons... and btw... we can't afford court anyway... they can!
Is it so hard to belive that they spray the skies with toxins? well.. don't belive then.... do your research youself! (In official gov documents), as Admin has done...
You are saying against on an completely EMPTY basis!
Shame on youself! Shame!
But hey.... humanity gets what it deserves... for not caring about anything other than their own (people's) small lifes... and bullying those that do care...
Humanity now has a wide spectrum of new dis-eases to die slow from... And the "experts" are researching.... not theire cures, but theire remedies, because cures generates no regular income, but remedies does...
It's like the drug / narco cartell... you keep comming back for more..... (medicine).....
infact.. the word.. drugs says it all.. because that is what medicine really are... Small poison doses in many cases... or in other cases... synthetic chemicals extracted from real herbs which had real medical properties to begin with....
are extracts better than nature..... it's not healthy to tamper with nature...
my point is.... the world gets worse for each day going by... not better...
the same with HOW we gets poisoned.....
Yadda yadda....
On purpose or not... things are NOT RIGHT! The world could have been a cleaner place to life... And things can be done to right this...
Can we atleast agree on that?!
The methods however..... is another issue to fight and disagree about... because when gov says it's gonna better a thing.. they usually worse them...
as in cause and effect.... and after worsening stuff, they say.. look we have just bettered it....
PROPAGANDA....
Who's to say what is good or bad.... whuch side are we or you on? Define good, define bad...
Poison is bad... isn't that common sense? Good health is good for us.. isn't that common sense too?
Well someone is friggin poisoning us.... both biologically.. and psychologicly (mind conditioning of political correctness)... there is no doubt of that...
Luckily some of us are immune and will never go down! Others BUY into stuff... propaganda.. without researching it's validacy...
And by propaganda i mean not nessecarily political propaganda.. but also marketing propaganda... i.e.. comercials... etc...
WAKE UP!!! WAKE T.F UP!!! for all our sakes...
Supporting our fall is not a good thing if you're a member of the human race.... it's a bad thing, it's treason against our race.. against humanity!
Is the world clean? no... everyone knows that.... but do people care? only a few of us... and we're growing in numbers... thank GOD!
Choose wisely which side you support.... or be in bad health and buy your poisonous chemical tv dinner and stay occupied with flicking images on a screen...
I for my sake cook from scratch with real ingredients, and get healthier every day... i even eat what THEY say is bad for me... i have learnt to do the total opposite of what they say is good for us...
I saw the pattern after researching and testing for a long time...
Chemtrails...... why not? is it a TOTAL IMPOSSIBILITY that someone in power can do this on purpose?!
No... but is it probable....... well....... most people would say no to that one..... but not those who have dedicated much of theire time finding out if this is the case or not...
We have all cometh to the same conclusion.... it IS on purpose... HAS TO BE..... it's even written in law bills.. if you know how to read them......
Btw... who gave someone the RIGHT and sovereignity to put someone in jail for "driving too fast" on a public road... who?
some people think they have the right to rule others..... other people think that they need rulers and experts, and that they have choosen their rulers in a democracy... (hehe democrazy)... and that those rulers have humanity's wellfare in theire best interrest...
WELL... ABSOLUTE POWER, CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!!!
And corruption there is.. but thank God... not absolutely.... but there IS corruption... And that corruption done by many people in league and cooperation (a conspiracy) is ruining our lifes.. getting us and our environment poisoned with industrial waste and toxins.. known to man to cause damage and death...
WE DON'T TOLLERATE THAT!
Why do you???
Are you infact IN-F..ING-SANE?
Either you are indeed insane, or you are against humanity!
Amen!
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We just want to live in perfect health and explore life's great pleassures and gifts... Don't you?
Evolve... get illuminated... as said.. live.... in peace..
Someone doesn't want us to do experience such a life... others doesn't care to look and then blow the whistle, others doesn't dare in fear of beein shot at to be shut up, or worse....
We want people to be good to each others.. we want clean food, clean skies, clean oceans and waters, we want honest, we want peace, and heaven on earth... don't you...
It's not like that today you know..... never has been... atleast, that is a long time ago.... ancient times...
We wanna wake humanity for all humanity's good sake... But sadly.. most of humanity is futile to wake it seems, sleeping programmed "robot like" bodies without a selfaware soul, seems that way..
Yadda....
PEACE!
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I'm not bitter btw.. for having been mercury poisoned by amalgams, and having lost most of my life to energy fatigue and such mercury symptoms... infact i have learnt very much from that, THANKYOU!
I would have never realised how scre#d this world really is, if i had not been poisoned by mercury in my friggin mouth for crying out loud...
THANKYOU....
Thanks to that... i began asking questions..... someone took IT too far... it's not hideable anymore... If you BOTHER TO LOOK!
Mercury.... now thats one evil poison... it kills you slowly...
And those who have done their research says that "chemtrails" are full of mercury... btw.... why does the seasonal flu come when its overcast... typiclly...
And what symptoms is identical to flu like symptoms....... mercury poisoning!
Think again man!
Well.. forget about me.... I don't know if i care no more... as long as i can clean my own body up and get my fresh untampered greens, and earn a buck or two enough for me to enjoy lifes pleassures in abudance without lack of money and health to be able to do so....
as i said.....
Peace!
I'm out.... taking care of my self.
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user faithinscience has closed their youtube account, unsurprising, i guess the truth must have got to them good.
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Good to hear. Of course, I expect that they have opened 10 more YouTube accounts.
If all of us work together to keep pointing to disinformation criminals - because we outnumber them dramatically - we can keep this harmful activity to a minimum.
Every morning when I wake up with burning sinuses and a raw throat, I am reminded that we are experiencing the largest crime against humanity in world history.
These monsters are monumental criminals.
Thanks.
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1 weed down, 10 new springs up? Do we need a strategy recheck?
I guess we both made our point as clearly as could be done!
Think about this for a change.. Is it so btw, I belive our efforts are paying off, but is it like with the artifical sweetner that was used before asparthame? People started to demand the old sweetner banned, then the "soloution" came, namely asparthame (the worse replaced the bad, emporors new clothes, "look people isn't it better now, nice clothes eh?")!
Is it so these days with the new high altitude chemtrail spraying? (the same analogy) People starting to look up, litterally, demanding it gone, so they remove what is to look upon by moving it beyond the visible distance range and increase it's negative effects?!
See the parallel?!
So.. a strategy rethink?! When we uncover a "bad", then a fix will come, and the fix will always be a "worse"! That is "draconic law nr.1" it seems.
I ask for fun... what will come next, when enough people are starting to point fingers at the new high altitude chamtrails (the ultimate chemtrails) !? What WILL come next? Instant death? I think not, but i like to take it to the extreme sometimes just to make people really think how bad it is, and how on the far edge things are, or could be if the puppet masters wanted it to be.
Well.. anyhow.. we may need a strategy recheck.. Up-root one weed, and a far more worse weed starts to grow in it's place.
I see a pattern here!
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You're exactly right. Couldn't say it better myself.
And now that they have moved some times and some areas to high-altitude spraying, how is anyone going to be convinced that this is going on. You couldn't even convince (the majority of) people when they were plainly visible.
It's amazing to live in this time and see these things happening and see the majority of people just let it happen. It's one of the most amazing things I've seen in my entire life.
New strategy? Yes. Not sure what it is though.
Air testing perhaps. Do I think if people see that we have 100-times the allowed levels of mercury and aluminum in the air, they'll listen?
Probably not.
In all honestly, I don't know what to do. People are too stubborn and selfish (I'm speaking of those who don't care, of course).
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I don't know another strategy myself neither. Just for fun, am not serious ofcourse, but the sad truth, The ONLY way, is to hijack the global broadcast industry, only then "all" people will BELIVE. Afterall, what the holy altar of flickers in front of the sofa tells you, must be, and "IS" true! No questions asked, TV is the law for most people! 
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