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#8563 12/05/13 02:04 PM
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Most people think that Agent Orange was only used in Vietnam. Nothing could be further from the truth.


Agent Orange and its herbicide cousins have been used in the US up until today. A new book is out on the Congressional investigation regarding Agent Orange but if you want to use it it will cost $99-your tax dollars at work. I did manage to get the eye-opening Table of Contents and Summary:

Veterans and Agent Orange: Update 2012
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Released: December 3, 2013

From 1962 to 1971, US military sprayed herbicides over Vietnam to strip the thick jungle canopy that could conceal opposition forces, to destroy crops that those forces might depend on, and to clear tall grasses and bushes from the perimeters of US base camps and outlying fire-support bases. Because of continuing uncertainty about the long term health effects of the sprayed herbicides on Vietnam veterans, Congress passed the Agent Orange Act of 1991. The legislation directed the Secretary of Veterans Affairs to request the IOM to perform a comprehensive evaluation of scientific and medical information regarding the health effects of exposure to Agent Orange and other herbicides used in Vietnam. Veterans and Agent Orange: Update 2012 is the ninth congressionally mandated biennial update.

The committee reviewed all relevant literature published between October 2010 and September 2011 and integrated the new findings with the previously assembled epidemiological data on each health outcome assessed with respect to exposure to the chemicals constituting the herbicides used in Vietnam, including the dioxin contaminant 2,3,7,8-TCDD. The single new conclusion was that there is limited or suggestive evidence of a scientifically meaningful association of stroke with exposure to the chemicals in question.

• Table of Contents
• Front Matter R1-R14
• Summary 1-11
• 1 Introduction 12-25
• 2 Evaluating the Evidence 26-46
• 3 Exposure to the Herbicides Used in Vietnam 47-68
• 4 Information Related to Biologic Plausibility 69-109
• 5 Epidemiologic Studies: Compendium of New Publications 110-122
• 6 Epidemiologic Studies: Background on Multiply Referenced Populations 123-226
• 7 Immune-System Disorders 227-249
• 8 Cancer 250-554
• 9 Fertility and Gestational Outcomes 555-597
• 10 Effects on Future Generations 598-636
• 11 Neurologic Disorders 637-672
• 12 Cardiovascular and Metabolic Outcomes 673-723
• 13 Other Chronic Health Outcomes 724-769
• 14 Conclusions and Recommendations 770-779
• APPENDIX A--Issues Raised By the Public and Agendas of Public Meetings Held by the Committee to Review the Health Effects in Vietnam Veterans of Exposure to Herbicides (Ninth Biennial Update) and Other Written Submissions to the Committee 780-787
• APPENDIX B--Short-Term Adverse Health Responses 788-798
• APPENDIX C--Clarification of Cancer Groupings Used in Reporting Results, with Correspondence to National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health Cause-of-Death Codes and International Classification of Diseases Codes for Cancers 799-805
• APPENDIX D--Biographies of Committee to Review the Health Effects in Vietnam Veterans of Exposure to Herbicides (Ninth Biennial Update) and Staff 806-810

From the trenches,
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Aerospace engineer - "out of the box"

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Denglisch #9431 01/20/14 08:42 PM
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Oh my...I will have to listen after I get done with my Survival Summit presentations. Thanks for sending this along!

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Celeste #9442 01/21/14 12:13 AM
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Looks like they took the You Tube down.

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Celeste #9446 01/21/14 07:31 AM
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Very Strange. And very suddenly.

There is even a bigger report - 300 pages of the same symposium which has about 80 MB.




There is a statement made by the aeronautic engineer:


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Denglisch #9486 01/21/14 11:33 AM
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Belfort Group - Coen Vermeeren, Aerospace Engineer Verifies Case Orange Report


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Yep, those are the bad boys dumping this garbage down on us. I will have o look at the others next week after the Survival Summit. It is really good.

Thank you Denglisch!

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Denglisch #9894 01/27/14 07:16 PM
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I saw this when it first came up on the net.

Always nice to refresh the presentations.

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Celeste #10851 03/23/14 06:30 PM
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I just discovered a new toxicology map and they have 2,4-D (or any chemical you want to look up) on it. Y'all might want to go over the check it out. I found it interesting.

http://toxmap-beta.nlm.nih.gov/toxmap/flex/

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Celeste #10853 03/24/14 12:28 PM
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Great link!

I just looked up where I used to work.

Celeste #10857 03/24/14 07:08 PM
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That is what it is for :-)

Surveillance is trendy right now so there will be allot more surveillance tools hitting the web before to long.

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Celeste #10894 04/07/14 10:03 PM
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Ummm.... Mississippi is interested in my coverage of 2,4-D. They were quite specific so it appears as if it is some sort of surveillance operation.

Keep your heads up Mississippi...with the new Farm Bill you too can experience the *joy* (skeptical) of 2,4-D. If your plants begin to fail or they fiddle-head as in my pictures in the chem-trail photos, watch out!

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