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#5056 05/21/12 06:25 PM
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Hi,

I have recently changed jobs. I am an airline pilot and I was with my previous airline for 15 years. I recently changed airlines but I am still flying the same type of aeroplane with the same engines.

On my flights lately I have noticed an increase in the size and duration of the contrails left by my company aeroplanes.

I brought this up with my fleet manager and was unceremoniously told to never mention it ever again! I've asked my co-workers about this phenomenon and all have acted strangely.

Failing to get an "official" response from my company I turned to the Internet and found this site. I am hoping you will be able to provide me with some guidance about what to do?

Do you think my new employer is creating chemtrails on behalf of a secret government programme or do you think I am blowing the whole thing out of proportion as I am using the same engines as before?

Regards.

Worried Pilot #5070 05/23/12 07:30 PM
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You have every reason to be concerned.
#1 Either this company's jets are set up to run rich and emit more SO2 - or #2: have fuel extenders or "anti static" additives doped into the fuel from whom ever supplies the fuel contract to your company - or #3: have a separate system installed for automated gps dispersal via bootstrap centrifugal pump. Check with your mechanics (if they'll talk) check trailing edge of wings and flaps for a small gap which allows for laminar type distribution. The apparatus will probably be well hidden inside wing body or check rear of engine for tubing or anything that might not look as though it belongs. You are fortunate enough to have access to the tarmac and get an upclose where as most of the rest of us are kept out of the loop due to the threat of getting new holes put in our body by airport security.

Their own words:
"condensation trails are extremely rare under normally dry stratospheric conditions."

An overview of geoengineering of climate using stratospheric sulphate aerosols

STATISTICAL STUDIES OF ATMOSPHERIC NANOPARTICLES AND THEIR PRECURSORS

Levitating nanoparticles may make for better geoengineering

Aviation and the Global Atmosphere

Aurora Flight Sciences discussion of H2SO4

Toward ethical norms and institutions for climate engineering research

The discussion is limited to "discussion" in science papers is because the researchers, government and companies such as your new one do not want to talk to you about it is because nothing is legislated and what they are doing under the guise of "research" is illegal. Chances are your company is getting kickbacks somewhere along the way, if they are agreeing to take part.

OOPS!

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AntiPoA21 #5216 06/27/12 01:54 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Recently I had a chance to look closer at the aircraft.

I noticed on the metal leading edges, on the underside, there are a row of holes about a centimetre in diameter which are only on one or two of our planes. What do you think these are as I have no idea?!

Also when we refuel I am consistently seeing an over reading of the fuel tanks of about 100 kilos every time, do you think this is important?

Worried Pilot #5244 07/05/12 05:46 AM
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In no way am I an aviation expert, however, those holes you mention - along the leading edge may be for venting flow of hot engine air for de-icing purposes. Not saying that this is absolutely what they may be for, but I've read that 757's have one inch holes grouped in sets of three along their leading edges for this purpose.
What type of planes are you seeing these on?
Can you get an image and post it here; perhaps there are others who would be more knowledgeable as to what they would be for sure.
There is nothing to say at this point that this existing system could not be tied into secondary devices for dispersal - just say'n.
What I was referring to can be viewed here: laminar Microjet atomizer
The system/methods are going to be differing from those used by "fully" converted planes such as shown below - interior of Corexit chemtanker --- the technology has been around for quite some time now, commercial planes won't be as "in your face" as this. Your gonna have to dig below the flight deck and interior of the wings to find out what is in your companies planes.
[Linked Image]

As far as the "over reading" on the fuel capacity, can you elaborate a bit more. It has been extrapolated from SO4 estimates(Aurora Geoengineering Report)- that it would require only 7.5kg of alumina (@ 4X the efficiency over SO4)to create a persistent visible contrail that would reach from horizon to horizon, viewing a jet at 35,000ft - from ground. The problem with this scenario is that if the fuel was doped it would not be controllable, accounting for what many have witnessed as selective on/off spraying regardless of atmospheric conditions (super saturation)that would promote persistence - which is rare in occurrence in many witnessed and video testimonials.

Thanks for your concerns, it means you care.
Maybe, take a swab of those little holes and put it in a sterile glass vile at the same time you are getting some pics - just for curiosity sake!


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