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Joined: Apr 2011
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Yesterday I observed during the overhead aircraft "persistant contrailing" that one of the larger aircraft that usually drops the BIG trails (looks like 4 engine contrails) had TWO different distinguishable behaviors between trails on each side of the aircraft. one set of trails on one side had what i would consider to be a common persistent "chemtrail", but the other set of trails was of the type of trails that looks like thinner vapor trails and attracts together at points along the trail to eventually make circles and ovals. I have observed each of these chemtrail types with different aircraft, but i have never observed 2 different types coming from the same aircraft. I observed this for the first time on April 8, 2011 and did not have a camera, so i made sure that i had one on hand when i observed it on April 13, 2011 at 2pm EST over Flint, MI. included are the original photo and 2 contrast / resolution enhanced versions. Thankyou Spread the word!! -Roy Peterson

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if anyone has seen this behavior before please reply here, i have not ever seen this before personally, nor have i ever found other eyewitness descriptions of this.. If this could be documented on high quality video it would be the all time proof to the skeptics that what these aircraft are leaving in the sky are in fact NOT normal contrails, after all, do jet planes use 2 different fuels on each engine? do they have engines that dont match? I HIGHLY doubt it... do the atmospheric conditions vary from one side of the plane to the other? I doubt that too.

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You do have an interesting point. I have witnessed this type of behavior before with my own observations. What is coined "Uncinus spaghetti" (curly chemtrail) - what is odd is that the same vortex wake from one engine theoretically should be very similar to the mating one on the opposite side - or one would think (as shown in the pics below) Recent attempts to legitimize this 'new' phenomenon that are becoming commonplace with these so called normally occurring "persistent contrails" has been propped up with older research referred to as the "Crow Instability" dug up from a 1970 publication by the author S.C. Crow. Yes, it is 100% contrail science, undisputed.

Wiki Crow Instability

However, either the stratosphere has contracted (not likely) in combination with a significant increase in H2o saturation - that all of a sudden we now find our good friends at Wikipedia scrambling to explain away why all of a sudden, in the past 20 years, it is now a VISIBLE phenomenon to people on the ground where as Crows experiments required tracer elements of lead to "smoke out" the vortices for study and other lab testing was done in fluids. - something that Wikipedia fails to mention.

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What you have here in your pictures begs the question: What causes two very different plumes to occur from the same craft?

Engine fault? not likely as it would sputter out the same type of plume, only with intermittent breaks showing up.

Engine speed? not likely as it would probably be inefficient at flight and the other engine's wake would also affect or destroy the Uncinus spaghetti appearance of the other plume. (as we notice only one defined strand rather than two - very odd.)

An imbalance unintentionally set in during the injection of cloud condensation nuclei (additional particulate matter during vaporization stage)or coagulation/over saturation during the release of "whatever it may be", compared to the non-coagulation occurring in the other engine seems more likely.
Would be great to get an in flight sample of one of these plumes. Due to the juicy appearance alone it would suggest over saturation of some form of ccn and not just water vapor and ice crystals. In fact I would go so far as to say it could also be a potential source for the failed polymer cobweb type filaments that people report floating down after spraying?

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This is happening right now. The blue sky that appears gets quickly
gobbled up. These thin rainbowy clouds GROW and the different
sections connect, soon forming (right before my eyes) extremely large
billowy masses. The different sections seem to be attracted to each
other and move towards each other to close gaps. then the hazy gray
appears over it all and it moves over the sun, blocking it. The whole sky
soon is covered with these masses, the sun isn't allowed to reveal
itself for long. The masses are moved, i've seen one move west & 1 move
east at the same time. They will move east and veer north to cover sun.
Sometimes a thin layer will scoot along so fast! while the rest of the clouds
stay still. It's so scary how fast they can do this, without the appearance of
a plane (i did see a tiny white one scoot between clouds tho) and moving
purposefully the way they do. I don't know the techniques they use, but it
is amazing how quickly these rainbowy and white tendrils grow and cover.


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